Writing Assignment – Week 4

Outline and map out the divine events in Book 8. How does it compare with the actions of the mortals in that book? What is the relationship between the actions of the mortals and gods in Book 7-8? Are the two related or simply concurrent (or mixed)? What does it say about the experience of the mortals in these two books “on the ground,” compared with other books in the Iliad, e.g. 5-6?

NB: Initial posts should be 350-400 words; each reply should be around 100 words.

3 thoughts on “Writing Assignment – Week 4

  1. Briana Mason

    So there are many divine events in Book 8.

    I think by going back to book 7 we can conclude that Poseidon can convince his brother to perform acts merely by his feeling towards mortals and their actions.I get that you have to pray to the Gods for good luck but it’s a bit much that Gods take a lot of things personal.

    Book 8 starts off with Zeus giving command to the other immortals. The other gods and goddesses know that they are not as powerful as he and they do not challenge Zeus when he takes control of the Achaian and Trojan war. Zeus spoke of forcing the immortals to Tartaros if they shall intervene (Scroll 8- line 13).

    Just like the mortals listen to the words of Great Agamemnon, Paris and Menaleos, or for the Trojans, Hector, those under Zeus’s command know not to cross him because he is ultimately powerful.

    Athena shocks me that she speaks about own father Zeus calling him evil. She also speaks about how she’s helped him in the past. It’s tough going against your own family.

    Helen has that problem as well. She struggles with her love for the Achaians and her dislike about some things concerning Troy.(chapters 5-6)

    Athena, Hera, and Zeus’s conversation at the end of book 8 was very difficult for Athena and Zeus’s relationship. Zeus is use to Hera disobeying him but she is his wife. Just like mortals wives do not obey every word of their husbands. He was more concerned about his child turning against him. He could not tolerate that.(Book 8- lines 423-424).

    Mortals and Divinities share a lot of things in common when it comes to decision making and family arguments.

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  2. Nakia Browner

    I agree that the gods take more events too personal and manipulate situations in there favor. In all honesty the mortals could just be puppets on a string and the gods are the puppet master. I understand the wise advice of respected gods and elders is traditional but it leaves no room for the new generations to think for themselves. The gods have to big of a role in the mortals lives. I understand why Zeus started to tamper with the war on the Trojan’s behalf in spite of Hera and Athena work with the Achaians. Even though in the starting of book 8 Zeus was giving orders to the other immortals and even after the orders Athena disobeyed him. Showing favor upon Athena in the previous books, Zeus was livid when his own daughter disobeyed him. Divinities and Mortals don’t know where to draw the line between the two worlds.

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  3. Dannielle Forrest

    Figuratively, I view the divine events that occurred in Scroll 8 as catalysts, while the mortal’s and also the God’s actions are dependent on the nature of those specific events.

    As Nakia states, the God’s in a way have made themselves crutches when it comes to the willpower and logic of the mortals – and this has handicapped them severely. It almost seems as if in every other instance, they are seeking divine intervention, not relying on their own strength to pull them through. And if they detect the slightest shift in favor, their will simply crumbles.

    This leads me to wonder if the hierarchy was established in this way to maintain a consistent cycle of dependency among mortals and God’s. The display of Zeus’s power for one, demonstrates that he does in fact hold all of the cards – his persuasion extending not only among mortals but among the society of God’s themselves.

    In comparison to the previous scrolls, I would raise the question of how this war would play out if their was initially no divine involvement.

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